Spiritual Beings Having a Human Experience

Dr. Robert Holden joins Michael for a fun, funny, and surprisingly enlightening conversation as they explore Robert’s newest book, Holy Shift!, along with what it’s like to work with Louise Hay and Oprah, and just what exactly the Sufi poets meant when they talked about getting drunk on spirit!  
(Original Airdate: August 14th 2014)

03:08- In any given moment we are either thinking, or in love
08:30- Using spirituality to retreat from the world
18:00- Real freedom depends on welcoming reality
32:40- Success is knowing who you are
50:15- On working with Oprah

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