In my exploration of the “god stuff” I saw I kept going into a stack of notions I already knew. Then it occurred to ask what is unsayable about this “god stuff”? And I was left in a feeling of presence that was still and alive. Later I thought “what can be spoken of the “god stuff” is not the “god stuff.” I am sure you might recognize the similarity to the statement about the Tao. And I see the feeling of this weeks discussion similar to looking at what I think the feeling is rather than living in the mystery. And when I have felt it and aware of it there was also a short fall in being able to express what I was feeling. Mystery Love Wholeness are only pointers. All occurring in my being open.